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Talk:Achievements/Archive 1 Summary (show/hide)
* Achievements, How to earn achievements? (reason: old comments)
  • Jamjam, Just In Time, Exquisite Taste (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Rockstar, The Milkman, Territorial, Ministrel (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Curious Cat (reason: this achievement didnt was introduced in the update)
  • Superstitious (reason: spoiler completed)
  • Party Lover, Vegetarian (reason: fake achievements)

Talk:Achievements/Archive 2 Summary (show/hide)
  • magic carpet, Just posting a couple mistakes (reason: old comments)
  • Polisher, Culinary Master, Vanity (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Allowance collector, Cocoon of Doom (reason: spoilers completed)

Talk:Achievements/Archive 3 Summary (show/hide)
  • HERBICIDE, Berserker and other new potions based achievments (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Cookie Monster, With a Cherry on Top, Sweet Tooth (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Demonic Barkeeper (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Alumni and Ritualist achievement, Way of the Shaman (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Natural Sweetener, Happy Farmer and Homebrewed (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Cursed!, Rocket in Pocket, Free items! (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Open Blue, The Queen of the trolls,The Street Light (reason: fake achievement)
  • Nothing Can Stop Me (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Mister Sandman and Rock Me to Sleep!, Modest Guest (reason: spoilers completed)

Talk:Achievements/Archive 4 Summary (show/hide)
  • Why replace the text "Secret" for Images?, New Secret Achievements, Update (reason: discussion completed)
  • Are the achievement points correct? (reason: the points are accurate now)
  • Animal Activist, Undertaker, Bad Timing, Green Thumb, Interior Decorator, Blueberian, Commitment Phobic (reason: spoilers completed)
  • Its impossible to update the list, Sort type (reason: user mistake)
  • Moon Walker, Mysterious Machinery, Forcefield Master (reason: fake spoilers)
  • List of possible things that could lead to secret achievements? (reason: some comments arent helpful anymore)
  • Halloween Hare? (reason: checked, no achievement for it)

Talk:Achievements/Archive 5 Summary (show/hide)
  • List of Ideas, His True Face, Castlemania (reason: old comments)
  • Ship's Kobold, Gold Digger, Clay to Fame, Marble Madness, Master Shapeshifter, Nomad Soul (reason: Spoiler Completed)
  • Ministrel, New Wiki Layout, Worm Whacker (reason: there isn't reason to continue discussion anymore)
  • Achievement for jumping x times from a wooden floor to the sea in liberty bay (reason: added to list of ideas)

Talk:Achievements/Archive 6 Summary (show/hide)
  • Poet Laureate, Deep Sea Diver, Lucky Devil, Animal Activist, Ashes to Dust, A Pirate's Death to Me, Scourge of Death, Explosive presents, The Day After, Green Thumb (reason: spoilers completed)
  • 8.7 achievements (reason: spoilers completed, descriptions found, all added to achievements table)
  • Arrr, get up from lazy sits matey!, Backpack tourist dissapeared from the main page if im nto blind (reason: actions taken)
  • Tomb Raider (reason: it was already told that's fake achievement)
  • Further achievements research (reason: duplicated topic with newer one)

Talk:Achievements/Archive 7 Summary (show/hide)
  • List of Ideas, New Achievements From Summer Update 2011 (reason: old comments, completed spoilers, merged with main list)
  • Deep Sea Diver, Pwned All Fur Achievement, Skin-Deep (reason: spoiler completed)


If you want to discuss one or more achievements and haven't found a suitable discussion in the archives above, feel free to start it by pressing the button below.


Notice (Tracker)

There are still 13 (118/131) missing secret achievements. Also, this is a list of all of the achievements still missing descriptions and/or spoilers:

The following achievements spoilers are not accurate, not confirmed or may have multiple requirements:

Note: This is just a Tracker, please do not add comments here, use the appropriate category.

Notes

Do not delete comments! Always SIGN your comments and post in the existing topic!

The user User:Achievements Maniac its deleting comments. Even if it was fake achievements (uploaded by himself), the comments are useful, because now we now that there are not an achievement for turn down/on the streets lights. Please do not delete comments again. » Sez ~ Talk « 23:01, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


Please always SIGN your comments using 4 tildes ~~~~, and always make your contributions in the existing topic about that achievement, i moved the deep sea diver commets to the correspondig topic. Thanks » Sez ~ Talk « 14:41, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Do not change achievements written below. They have various requirements

  • Jamjam reason: achievement have various number of fishes required to do it.
  • Poet Laureate reason: take a book from pyramid first and go to doors hall later.
  • Ghostwhisperer reason: to obtain this achievement you have to make few quests
  • I did my part reason: can be obtained in any world quest

List of Ideas

Here we will put all the possible things that could lead to secret achievements, and the things that we already tested. Every update the second list (things tried without achievement) must be cleaned, because it can be new achievements on every update. There is list of not confirmed yet things:

  • Eating a certain type of food x times
  • Enchant X quantity of weapons
  • Giving X golden mugs to Pythius.
  • Fishing X mechanical fish (dunno if this can be done after quest, havent tried)
  • Repairing soft boots X times [more than 200]
  • Give X amount of Grapes to Partos
  • Made 100 skull candle's.
  • Entering to deeper tombs X times
  • Get x ammount of money from a single piggy bank (20 platinum coins obtained without achiev)
  • Lake Equivocolao - creating all items from Shimmer Swimmer
  • Entering White Raven Monastery's restricted area and then paying for absolution X times.

There is list of things tried without achievement effect

  • Destroying 1038 spider webs with a Katana.
  • Travel using orichalcum pearls 10000 amount of times.
  • Using a juice squeezer 1005 times
  • Using a watch 500 times
  • Carving 100 pumpkins
  • Using a birdcage with a living bird x times
  • Using a water pipe more than 10000 times.
  • Eating 2k hams, 1.5k bananas, 800 dhams
  • Swimming X amount of time or X quantity of steps on the water
  • Losing money from Aruda 3k times
  • Rolling a dice like 5k times
  • Breaking furniture 1k times
  • Went to ghostship like 80 times
  • Transfered 10kk cash to someone else
  • Travelling by dog sleds more than 1k times
  • Using the teleport (tunnel) inside the Pacman Room 1000 times.
  • Stepping in every SQM inside the Pacman Room and collected all the blueberries, oranges and the apple.
  • Getting all possible christmas gifts
  • Use X quantity of rings
  • Jumping X times under water.
  • Desintegrate 1000 items with 1 rune
  • Jump down 500 times at an iglo at chakoyas
  • Creating Jester Doll from parts 10 times.
  • Saying "bye" to npc's x amount of times instead of just walking away 500 times
  • Using 100 torches
  • Using a torch 1000 times
  • Baking gingerbreadmen 1000 times
  • Exchanging X life crystals to life rings [more than 500]
  • Exchanging X items like metals, pieces of cloth, soul orbs, etc. [1100 orbs without effect]
  • Sell an MPA to Sam (You have to talk and say "sell magic plate armor" not trade.)
  • Buy the "weight reduction spell", "mace of fury" and paying "taxes" at Bozo's multiple times(500 times tried "mace of fury" already).
  • Asking Ashtamor to "help you transcend the border to the afterlife" (say "help", then "yes") multiple times(500 tried already).
  • Thornfire - summoning Thornfire Wolf/transfering into/taming Crystal Wolf
  • The Mummy's Curse - creating raid on darama, summoning Horestis
  • Travelling x times via coal-powered steamship
  • Entering new sunken area x times
  • Throwing coal to pumps x times
  • Checking for missions in daemons factions
  • Lake Equivocolao - throwing x bodies to water
  • Stable - travelling via horses coast x times
  • The Mage's Tower - Killing Mad Mage
  • Thornfire - relasing and imprisoning bog faction
  • Checking for missions from Robson Stonespitter
  • Overhunting - giving 1000 straving wolves to npc
  • Entering the dimensional portal 500 times
  • Lake Equivocolao - fishing
  • Rent 1000 horses
  • grinding 1005 Wheat to Flour with no effect

His True Face

Before you post here read these comments.


I know two people who have this achievement, and they told me the following two stories, and since they all did this before the update that introduced Achievements, its hard to tell what the truth is.

A) Face Armenius (Creature)in Vengoth/Castle, and slay him in order to get the achievement.

B) During blood brothers quest, return to Armenius after he teleported you to the sewers, or wait after he teleported someone else, because sometimes, he has then his outfit changed to the one of a Vampire Lord. -- Xe Light 00:51, December 19, 2010 (UTC)


When my friend did the quest he went back to Armenius after being sent to the sewer and before going to Julius. As soon as he said "hi" to Armenius he got teleported to a room where he fought Armenius and got the achievement.
The problem though is that we have no idea how to get the achievement after finishing the quest (cip said that they added a method to get it afterwards so it wouldn't be up to chance who could get the most points). I've been trying to figure it out, but since I have the achievement in my list and I don't know which of my characters got it (I never got sent to fight him) it's hard to know if I've been testing stuff with a character that already has the achievement :(
Nevaran 07:06, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well i had an idea abt using holy water on him or such an anti vampire stuff he may react? i saldy cant test it now personaly.

also when i was doing the quest and i was send to sewers i tried to return to armenius and told him hi but no achiev so this also didnt work well:(

What about trying to talk to him while having a Blessed Wooden stake, some Bulbs of Garlic or something like that on your backpack, or wearing a Garlic Necklace?Aka ba 05:25, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


I tried speaking to him on a couple different occasions, constantly saying various command words, yalahar, vampire, blood, julius, the other 4 vampire citizens, yalahar, alori mort, job, mission, cookies all get various reactions but nothing has ever happened, I have done all as appearing as a vampire from using Creature Illusion and I have used vials of blood around his entire counter (you can't put it on the counter). We also had a vampire raid in yalahar the other day but alas I tried the same things without success, I was wearing a garlic necklace and had a blessed wooden stake on me at the time as well. I'm curious as to whether being an actual vampire hunter and having a certain rank combined with maybe being at the raid at the time will help, or maybe you need vampire dust as well. I think there has to be some chance involved though considering the statement of the achievement is that it is 'very rare' so as in getting the Hunting Horn even if you do fulfil all the requirements its not guaranteed and might just requier you to say hello to him constantly having fulfilled the requirements until you get lucky.

Baron Von Spack 10:39, June 16, 2011 (UTC)


I went to Armenius, and waited there slightly more than one hour and then suddenly viola, he changed his outfit and i had achivement. W miki 15:32, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


Did you say hi to him and had him in "conversation mode" during that time or did you just stand next to him without being in conversation? I'm gonna try it out now, but please respond to this, W miki! Ardami 21:48, April 1, 2012 (UTC)


Just an april fool ;p I still dont have that achi, but I think that Armenius might change his outfit at random times though... W miki 11:05, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Castlemania

Notes:

  • You have to bring all diary pages to Julius.
  • Do razing achievement.
  • Pick blood goblet.
  • Using or get ghost's tear.
  • Pick blood skull.
  • Kill 4 bosses and them shadows(?)
  • Summon Ghostly Apparation(?)
  • There can be some missing reqirements.
  • Marking 8 spots DOES change EVERYTHING. <----- Here is the broken link of the achievement. Check http://forum.tibia.com/forum/?action=thread&postid=31288506#post31288506

    //Saved comments:

Then it's probably something else that's needed as well. Have you used blood goblets to open the fury/torturer cage? I mean not just open it while there has been goblets there, but actually put goblets on the trophy stands.
Nevaran 21:01, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


I know, and im sure about it - to complete "Castlemania" Achievement, you have to touch(step on) every SQM on Vengoth castle.

My friend just did this, and no, he didnt used any goblet or blood skull!
Vasiva 17:03, October 15, 2010 (UTC)


Did your friend were on lower parts of castle?(i've stepped everywhere without lowest part and i didn't got achievement)
Leree 10:35, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


Yes, all the castle
including lower, higher parts and all towers! but only 'after' tp, not before!
Vasiva 13:39, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


all the castle including lower parts - it means place with blood skull too?
Leree 10:45, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


yes, thats why it needs 100 tokens.. some1 try it.. !
Vasiva 18:07, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


Just tried it, did not work..
Sibon 20:54, December 13, 2010 (UTC)


When I go around in Vengoth I notice alot animations, some of them made be steps [like the blood prints on the wall] maybe it's an walking achievement with animations for thoose who got Razing and the other stuff Bitter Soul 11:31, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


I got the achievement right when I picked the blood skull. Not sure what else that I did before that accually counted, but I have picked the blood goblet, turned in SIX diary pages, killed all vampire lords (not the shadows). Also, I have NOT walked on every sqm in the castle, and I haven't summoned any apparitions as far as I know. LyraArgor 09:42, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


Have you been hunting in the vengoth caste or askin NPC's around Tibia about castles? W miki 10:01, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


Haven't talked to any NPCs about castles... But some guy hinted that "there are many castles in Tibia". So I did visit lots of castle, just running around, checking bookcases etc for items. Didn't really find anything interesting though, as far as I can remember. Also, the description makes it look like it's only about Vengoth castle really. LyraArgor 10:54, January 25, 2011 (UTC)


But have you hunted regular monsters in vengoth castle, or maybe killed some of the demonic monsters there? Maybe you just have steped on certain sqm... W miki 02:33, January 26, 2011 (UTC)


I just came up with an idea, maybe the player that wants the achievement need to do most damage on all bosses to be able to get the achievement. I will try it tonight. Sibon 14:02, January 26, 2011 (UTC)


i was thinking maybe u need to kill at least 1 vampire lord(the random spawns) Klapauciusrnex 16:10, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


Killed all of them. No achievement :( Sibon 19:23, February 08, 2011 (UTC)

I dont know how to edit this properly so I'm sorry if it's a mess butI e-mailed CIP and got this answer:


Thank you for your request.

We are evaluating a change for this achievement so players, which missed to fulfil
the requirements in the past will get the chance to repeat it in order to get it.
(the requirement of the 100 token will stay, you haven't wasted your cash)
We will try to implement this change with the summer update.

Kind regards,
Marc
Tibia Customer Support

If you want to read the whole conversation you can read it here: http://www.tibianation.net/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=806&rowstart=120#post_44952

Wuurtation 13:59, February 24, 2011 (UTC)


Has there been any change to this achievement yet? The above message indicates that the problem was something that would become inaccessible at some point (e.g. the Blood Brothers Quest may have an optional feature needed to get the achievement - such as the marking mission) -- Sixorish 03:06, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


A comment:
Julius: allows recompletion of Vengoth map and allows to change mind about NOT turning in Marziel's diary - this means: the Castlemania achievement is NOT missable anymore, but can be completed even if the wrong decisions were previously take.
There you go! Beejay 16:30, June 28, 2011 (UTC)


Hi ho, i didn't had the achievement so i take the time to chek up eavery step that can be done to get it and those are the resoults, easy.

  • Blood Brothers Quest.
  • Do razing achievement.
  • Pick bloody skull.
  • Mark the 8 spots.
  • Bring 6 pieces of diary.

Thats what i did and voalaa!. Now i am wondering how to get the Armenius true face so let a mesage on my profile if you got a hit. I hope u lucky.--Zhujin 21:12, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Credtis to Zhujin. http://forum.tibia.com/forum/?action=thread&postid=31288506#post31288506

I think Castlemania is Solved. The requirements are exposed above. Santeria 14:05, October 11, 2011 (UTC)


Those requirements are correct (at least complete map, and returned all diary pages) few ppl got it after fixing julius map, and today I earned it after returning last diary. I'll add all requirements to page. W miki 00:12, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

fire bug achievement?

today i was making sugar cane achievs with my noob and though of that there shall be achiev for broking X of fire bugs or using X of them on spiderwebs or broking x on spiderwebs or broking x on sugar cane or x in vamp castle( u need them to summon one boss)? anyone shall test it?Mastrik 14:42, May 19, 2011 (UTC)


Notorious Worldsaver

The achievement is true jic, but as far it looks right now it is obtanable for a bug, probably most of you now but meanwhile the spoiler should be remove to prevent to be abused.
Juan Ariel 11:56, September 2, 2011 (UTC)


I agree with that. It's questflag problem which will be(or is already) fixed soon.
It's given for doing all world events so I guess autumn vintage and lightbearer left
 « Leree »  « Talk »  19:33, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

[Autumn Achievements Patch 2011]

Some Acheivements from the next update that people got in Test Server:

Twisted Mutation: Achievement for killing Esmeralda

Blood-Red Snapper: Achievement for killing The Snapper

No More Hiding: Achievement for killing Hide

Choking on Her Venom: Achievement for killing The Old Widow

Back into the Abyss: Achievement for killing Thul

Hissing Down Fall: Achievement for killing Gorgo

The Serpent's Bride: Achievement for killing The Noxious Spawn

One Less: Achievement for killing The Many


PS: This Achievements you own after killing the boss and talk to Grizzly Adamns, Isn't just "killing the boss".

Anyway, I found all this in a forum and the person that got it is level 130+ anyone knows if we will gonna be able to make low level tasks for got this new achievements ? Gahenne 17:15, September 21, 2011 (UTC)


Until the patch has been released we will not place the new achievements on this page. You can see the changes on Fall Patch 2011 including all but 1 new achievement (which is a secret one). By the way, all the boss achievements are grade 1 and yes it is possible to do all of the bosses to get the achievements no matter your level. That should have already been stated by Mirade on the Auditorium. Beejay 17:18, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Mechanical Fish

Has anyone tried for a mechanical fishing achievement? I know as long as you have nails and a fishing rod, you can fish for them, even after you complete the quest. Icy Alchemist 02:32, September 24, 2011 (UTC)


I guess that Ideas of achievement you need to edit in another spot on talk, but about the achievement it must but a nice ammount of fishes Gahenne 18:39, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Clay to fame

I've earned this achievement and gained 6 points. I'm Sure of this.Santeria 02:01, October 15, 2011 (UTC)


i confirm it.. 6pt ... Macgyver 23:07 Dec 15, 2011 MET

Why spoilers are gone?

Few days ago I noticed that all spoilers at this page are gone. The table column which used to contain them all is just empty right now. I tried 3 different browsers (firefox, opera and IE), also asked my friends to check it and we all can't see them anymore. History of changes doesn't show any acts of vandalism. Where is the problem? Suinn 12:38, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


The problem is with the spoiler tags themselves. You can see all the information when you click "edit" on the page. Beejay 12:41, November 21, 2011 (UTC)


The spoiler extension seems to have malfunctioned in the past few days. Wikia are working to remedy the problem but I'll go and remove the spoiler tags in the meantime. -- Sixorish 12:45, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Table

Something is wrong with the tables, I tried to add an achievment and when i saved the page the table was gone, I also make an undo and nothing happened.

This was my contribution.

Si, Ariki! You've found the oriental traveller Yasir and were able to trade with him - even if you didn't really understand his language.

Grade: 1, Points: 1. Verbatom


This is what is wrong, you can see the difference. The beginning of the table right down at the very bottom. If you didn't deliberately do that then it's probably because of your preferences. Wikia editor, skin or something else likes to mess up the articles for some reason. Beejay 23:32, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Down the drain - 50 or 55?

Can anyone confirm it's 50 and not 55?

Took me 55 to get it (the server log lists 55 kills), but want confirmation before adjusting it. -- Sixorish 12:18, January 18, 2012 (UTC)


It's 50. I just did with 2 chars and i can confirm the number. Also i noticed that ONLY the elementals in the cave count, the water elemental outside doesn't. Maybe that is why you counted 55 water elementals. » Sez6 ~ Talk « 01:19, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

jamjam achievement

Perhaps someone could edit the spoiler, with the required transcripts for the achievement.


Player: Hi

Sinatuki: Sajoq, jinuma!

Player: Chuqua

Sinatuki: Chuqua jamjam!! Tiyopa Sinatuki?

Player: Nupi

Sinatuki: Jinuma, suvituka siq chuqua!! Nguraka, nguraka! <happily takes the food from you>


  • The NPC will take the first stack of fishes the player have (green perches or rainbow trouts)


Player: Chuqua

Sinatuki: Chuqua jamjam!! Tiyopa Sinatuki?

Player: Nupi

Sinatuki: Jinuma, suvituka siq chuqua!! Nguraka, nguraka! <happily takes the food from you>


  • The NPC will take the last stack of those fishes (green perches or rainbow trouts) from player's bp. If you have only 100 fishes, you must take one away from your inventory, orelse you will have to delever another fish, becouse the NPC eats the ntire stack.


Player: Chuqua

Sinatuki: Chuqua jamjam!! Tiyopa Sinatuki?

Player: Nupi

Sinatuki: Jinuma, suvituka siq chuqua!! Nguraka, nguraka! <happily takes the food from you and gives you five glimmering crystals>


  • Now you got the achievement.


˜˜˜˜

Skin deep achievment


my girlfriend and I made two task and 250 behemoths. she always used the obsidian, some Bonebeast also killed, and finally she got the achievement, it is curious that she just won the achievement in the behemoth which gave a fang.


so around 1650 behemoths have been killed and 200~ bonebeasts ;]

dont is 500 creatures ;p Doug 01:40, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

True Colours

I got this achievement today when I became green in The Colours of Magic event for the third time. I guess it works for any colour as long as you become the same colour three times?
Nevaran 12:37, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Forgot to mention that it is a secret achievement that gives 3 points. The text on tibia.com is:
True Colours
You and your friends showed the three wizards your loyalty three times - I am sure at least one of them is probably eternally thankful and exceedingly proud of you.
Nevaran 16:47, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

I got the achievement too but I was not the same colour this year as I was at previous years so maybe it is just participating in the event 3 years in a row.

Kelly Appleseed 02:14, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

List thing

For what is the "List" thing in the last revision? Garethderioth 16:08, April 23, 2012 (UTC)


Allows us to transclude the entire list using a different list template (i.e. allows us to have custom styles/formats should we want that). You can see an example on User:Sixorish/Achievements2 - it removes the data and the table and lists just achievement names. -- Sixorish 16:46, April 23, 2012 (UTC)

Mainland achievements on rookgaard

Is it possible to get mainland-only achievements, then die to level 5 so you're degraded to Rookgaard and still have those achievements points on this character? I know you can smuggle wedding outfit and PVP skulls to Rookgaard in the same way, but what about achievements? Xeoxer 13:48, May 3, 2012 (UTC)


Yes it's possible. It was confirmed by a CM member some time ago that they have no plans to change it either. Note this statement: "The theoretical maximum points one can have is 720." We say this because you can achieve all of the achievements in this list, by rooking a character and choosing different quest paths. -- Sixorish 13:58, May 3, 2012 (UTC)

Achievement idea : Using Spider eggs

Hey, i wonder if anyone tried using Spider Eggs, like the ones in the Terra Amulet Quest maybe using them a number of times gives an ach~?
someone can add it to the ideas list or try it..if people still using this page as reference.
--~ Vapaus 00:59, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Splitting the page to individual articles

I think we should consider the idea to make individual pages for all achievements after all. Because the page load it too high. We can still keep the achievements page as a list of achievements (more like a dpl list though). What do you guys think? -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 12:57, June 24, 2012 (UTC)


I don't understand what you mean by the page load is too high, I don't have problems here, only with firefox that seems to be a bit slower scrolling big pages, but this is hardly noticeable.

Making a single page for each achievement would make easier to edit or add single achievements, but if I'm not wrong DPL doesn't have a sum function so to keep the "automatic" points calculation functionality every new achievement would have to be manually added to the "Achievements" page. --Daniel Letalis 22:11, June 24, 2012 (UTC)


I proposed the same 2 years ago Talk:Achievements/Archive 4.
The point is not the current situation, is that the list of achievements will keep growing infinitely, and it's already the 3rd heaviest page of this wiki. Sooner or later this is going to be neccesary.
Also splitting to individiaul articles will make a lot easier to follow ahcievements discussions. Right now the talk pages are a complete mess. There are discussions of the same achievement in different archives. Achievements archived but without spoiler complete, etc. Example: Deep Sea Diver discussions in archive 6, 7 and in the achievements page it says "It is still unknown how to complete this achievement."
» Sez6 ~ Talk « 05:19, June 25, 2012 (UTC)


With "page load to high" I mean: it takes 1 or 2 seconds to load the page, it annoys me that I have to wait. Maybe it's a luxery problem (kids in Africa don't even have computers and they don't complain), but since we can fix this, well.. why not? I think Sez6's argument about the talk page/discussion is true as well. Also, if we get ~20 new achievements every update, the list will grow and grow..

To sum the points we might need a separate page which contains just the number. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 07:24, June 25, 2012 (UTC)


It takes me 5 seconds to load the page with advblocker, 8 seconds without it. Seriously i don't know why you think that everyone have high internet speeds.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2027972074.png
» Sez6 ~ Talk « 12:40, June 25, 2012 (UTC)


I don't consider my 20 down/1 up internet "high speed". That woud be the university network of 100 down/100 up (!).

But are there serious objections against splitting this page to smaller pages? -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 17:17, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


I don't want to rely on DPL more than we have to. If we can't transclude then we should stick to this. I see some advantages in specific pages for each (tips) but also many disadvantages (harder to manage 200 pages than 1). -- Sixorish (talk) 17:36, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


I don't quite think it would be necessary to have one article for one achievement, but I do agree that something should be done to improve this and I wouldn't argue against it. Before we had articles for Grade 1, 2 and 3 but with this long page, the others were ignored and not updated, I think people will still probably prefer a list. If we were to list them without DPL, wouldn't it be possible to just make an achievements template and use something like {{:achievementname|list}}? Even knowing that it would have to be updated manually, or would this be no good? Or even, are there more alternatives? Beejay (talk) 17:59, July 5, 2012 (UTC)


About the achievement max points, that number its useless and misleading. I say this because we don't have any idea of the real maximum amount of points obtainable by one character and most probably, we never will. We shouldnt include something that we know its wrong and doesnt help in anything.

About the advantages of splitting achievements, achievs should be treated like quest pages, there is a lot of information that can (or should in my opinion) be added. For example:

  • Owned All Fur: In the 9.5? udpate was renamed to "Owned A Lot a Fur". A new Owned All fur was created including the new bosses introduced.
  • JamJam: Add the transcripts to win the achievement. Some people have troubles with this.
  • Gold Digger: An image with the sqms you can dig. (i know you can use the mapper, but still).
  • Link achievements that you can't win unless you rook your character, like Follower of Azerus/Palimuth and Turncoat or add a note explaining.
  • Cursed!: You can win faster if you remove the claw and wear again repeatdely inside of a PZ.
  • Add notes like in "The Day After" you can try this and commitment phobic at once.
  • Bad Timing: The fastest way to get this one is by setting the tool into one hotkey and push the hotkey for some hours.
  • Interior Decorator: The cheapest furniture packages are the through kits (7gps each, non walkable) or the indoor plant kits (8gps ea, non walkable). The cheapest walkable furniture is...
  • At least the non secret achievements can have information about in which update they was introduced.

Etc, etc. There is a lot of information that can be added, but the actual page limits this a lot.
» Sez6 ~ Talk « 01:42, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


I split the page into 303 separate pages. Some things to consider:

  • Loading the page without the code which counts the points takes 0.285 seconds when using {{:pagename|List}}
  • Loading the page without the points counting but using a cached DPL list takes 0.371 seconds
  • Loading the page with the points counting code and using {{:pagename|List}} costs 6.35 seconds

I propose to remove the code which counts points for performance reasons, at least dynamically.

EDIT: Ok, my statement is not true. Apparantly using the List method takes 6.53 seconds either way. I assume that's because it includes all the pages.

-- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 19:52, January 14, 2013 (UTC)


Does your proposal still stand? And if so, is it still relevant to have the data? For example we could replace it with JS either on page load or on the click of a button, if it is relevant that is. -- Sixorish (talk) 20:00, January 14, 2013 (UTC)


I don't know, there is a lot possible, but I'm not really sure what is desirable. I think we could really use some feedback from the average visitor. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 20:21, January 14, 2013 (UTC)


GJ on splitting up.

  1. Shouldn't be more informative if "Secret" marking did stay?
  2. So all discussion related to specific achievement should be continued on its page, right?

Van Rebeliant (talk) 12:26, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


Thanks. Indeed all discussions should be held on the talkpages of the individual achievements. On the page Achievements I added a minimum amount of columns, because there is the 670 pixels width restriction. More columns could be added, but ideally only the most relevant data is shown in the overview table and people would click on the achievement if they want more info. Here rises the question, which data is the most relevant/important? I don't care if an achievement is secret or not, but others may do. For me the name, spoiler and related articles is the most relevant. But I don't know what the community thinks.. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 15:06, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


Opening spoilers one by one

Ok well, opening all of the achievements one by one is annoying coz of multiple spoilers (over 600) , please add some button with code "$('div[id^="spoiler"]').each(function(){$(this).attr("style","")});" onClick.

Temporary solution is to type? javascript:$('div[id^="spoiler"]').each(function(){$(this).attr("style","")});? in your url bar and press enter, that will open all of the spoilers on whole page.

Zero Geass (talk) 18:37, November 22, 2012 (UTC)


What you want is to open all spoilers at once? So you don't have to click? When I first read your message I thought you wanted to hide some of the table rows... but your code would just show them (and it would make the page a lot longer and harder to search I guess). -- Sixorish (talk) 01:18, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Spoilers

Was the removal of spoilers discussed somewhere? I think they should return because people search for achievements specifically for that information. Other information like tips could be kept from this page but the method of achieving it is one of the fundamentals. -- Sixorish (talk) 23:04, March 26, 2013 (UTC)


No, it was my doing. I was still thinking which things were relevant, so I created Achievements/DPL and Achievements/Spoiler. The latter I thought to be a little cramped. What do you think? It is of course up for discussion. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 16:19, March 27, 2013 (UTC)


In order of importance I would list:

  1. Name
  2. Method
  3. Points
  4. Description
  5. Grade

The description and grade are really just flavor, but we have plenty of space so I would suggest removing just the grade. The grade does categorize in a way the difficulty of obtaining an achievement, but with sortable point columns it's not necessary on a list.

Also I think the template should support 'tips' (or maybe 'notes' for standardization) as a different parameter. The spoiler should be concise with obtain instructions, not suggestions for obtaining them. I think that was suggested as one of the pros for moving to achievement articles.

-- Sixorish (talk) 09:34, March 28, 2013 (UTC)


I believe I fixed the points calculations yesterday, also today I added a "Toggle spoiler info" button, feel free to change it, remove it or let me know if I should do any change.

I understand the page looks a bit bad when spoilers are shown now, but I believe a lot of people come to this page for that info. --Daniel Letalis (talk) 05:56, April 7, 2013 (UTC)


Looks great Daniel, good solution. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 12:08, April 7, 2013 (UTC)


To Be Fixed

max by all achievements = 810 points

max that can be gotten by one character = 765

142 secrets are known so far


Exoltes (talk) 14:40, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

Page Update

I noticed that achievements introduced on Update 10.3 are missing. Can someone add them and check if there are other missing achiements (Achievements/DPL and Category:Achievements might be helpful for this)?

Hunter of Dragoes (Talk · Contribs · Admins) - 22:49, May 22, 2014 (UTC)


Done. Also made it sortable so we don't need to worry about the starting order. -- Sixorish (talk) 01:00, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

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